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Michael C



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject: Damn it! Reply with quote

Yesterday my last programmer left my project so now I'm just down to me. No
one wants to work on vb6 anymore! I'm only on the project 2 days a week
myself because I don't want to do vb6 either. It's getting to the stage that
it needs to be upgraded to dotnet just to keep the programmers.

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Bob O`Bob



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: Damn it! Reply with quote

Michael C wrote:
> Yesterday my last programmer left my project so now I'm just down to me. No
> one wants to work on vb6 anymore! I'm only on the project 2 days a week
> myself because I don't want to do vb6 either. It's getting to the stage that
> it needs to be upgraded to dotnet just to keep the programmers.


maybe no one /there/ wants to ...
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Michael C



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Damn it! Reply with quote

"Bob O`Bob" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Michael C wrote:
>> Yesterday my last programmer left my project so now I'm just down to me.
>> No one wants to work on vb6 anymore! I'm only on the project 2 days a
>> week myself because I don't want to do vb6 either. It's getting to the
>> stage that it needs to be upgraded to dotnet just to keep the
>> programmers.
>
>
> maybe no one /there/ wants to ...

I really can't see many actually wanting to do vb6. I'm sure we could find
some to take the job but I doubt it would be their ideal choice. I can only
see negative reasons for someone wanting to do vb6 such as they don't have
confidence to learn a new language.

BTW, my apoligies for the multipost. I thought the news server had rejected
my post due to the subject containing the word damn. I'd just posted to a
different group than what I thought.

Michael
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Bob O`Bob



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: Damn it! Reply with quote

Michael C wrote:

> I really can't see many actually wanting to do vb6. I'm sure we could find
> some to take the job but I doubt it would be their ideal choice. I can only
> see negative reasons for someone wanting to do vb6 such as they don't have
> confidence to learn a new language.

Heh.
I /lost count/ long before VB1 shipped.

I prefer VB6 because it's still got the best results/effort ratio going.



Bob
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Michael C



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Damn it! Reply with quote

"Bob O`Bob" wrote in message
news:%23DxMuAQwGHA.428@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Heh.
> I /lost count/ long before VB1 shipped.

I missed something there, what did you lose count of?

> I prefer VB6 because it's still got the best results/effort ratio going.

I don't think that's true compared to dot net for 2 reasons. It has a lot
less functionality in it so you're going to have to add more yourself. And
where the functionality is missing it's a lot easier to add it to dot net
than vb6 because it has much greater interop support. The second really hit
home for me when I was doing work with direct show in c#. While it was a lot
of work in c# it would have been a lot more in vb6 because it's necessary to
get around a lot of issues that vb6 just doesn't cater for. The interesting
thing is it would have been a lot easier to do the direct show work in C++
and include it as a dll or control, even despite my poor ability in C.

>
>
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> Bob
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Jan Hyde



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Damn it! Reply with quote

"Michael C" 's wild thoughts were
released on Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:05:53 +1000 bearing the
following fruit:

>"Bob O`Bob" wrote in message
>news:%23DxMuAQwGHA.428@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Heh.
>> I /lost count/ long before VB1 shipped.
>
>I missed something there, what did you lose count of?
>
>> I prefer VB6 because it's still got the best results/effort ratio going.
>
>I don't think that's true compared to dot net for 2 reasons. It has a lot
>less functionality in it so you're going to have to add more yourself.

Most of us have already build libraries of code and have
made good use of API calls, .NET wraps these up in classes
and may be 'new' functionaility to some, but for the rest of
us we've had that functionality for years, in this case .Net
may not have as much to offer.

J

> And
>where the functionality is missing it's a lot easier to add it to dot net
>than vb6 because it has much greater interop support. The second really hit
>home for me when I was doing work with direct show in c#. While it was a lot
>of work in c# it would have been a lot more in vb6 because it's necessary to
>get around a lot of issues that vb6 just doesn't cater for. The interesting
>thing is it would have been a lot easier to do the direct show work in C++
>and include it as a dll or control, even despite my poor ability in C.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>> --
>


Jan Hyde (VB MVP)

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Michael C



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Damn it! Reply with quote

"Jan Hyde" wrote in message @4ax.com...
> Most of us have already build libraries of code and have
> made good use of API calls, .NET wraps these up in classes
> and may be 'new' functionaility to some, but for the rest of
> us we've had that functionality for years, in this case .Net
> may not have as much to offer.

Naturally that might be true for some I suspect most developers will have
less libraries of their own than what is built into dot net. Generally those
sort of libraries are very easy to translate accross anyway.

Michael
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Ken Halter



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: Re: Damn it! Reply with quote

"Michael C" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I really can't see many actually wanting to do vb6. I'm sure we could find

You've just posted to an entire group of people that prefer VB over VFred.

> Naturally that might be true for some I suspect most developers will have
> less libraries of their own than what is built into dot net. Generally
> those

For the ones with fewer libraries, there are millions of lines of code
available on the web.

> sort of libraries are very easy to translate accross anyway.

Then. do it, instead of trolling these groups with your constant dotnet
sales pitches. I get enough spam already.


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Bob O`Bob



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Damn it! Reply with quote

Michael C wrote:
> "Bob O`Bob" wrote in message
> news:%23DxMuAQwGHA.428@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Heh.
>> I /lost count/ long before VB1 shipped.
>
> I missed something there, what did you lose count of?


Of course you missed it, you snipped out all the context!
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boaz



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Damn it! Reply with quote

"Michael C" wrote in message
news:%23FMQKSNwGHA.1956@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yesterday my last programmer left my project so now I'm just down to me.
> No one wants to work on vb6 anymore! I'm only on the project 2 days a week
> myself because I don't want to do vb6 either. It's getting to the stage
> that it needs to be upgraded to dotnet just to keep the programmers.
>


Oh good... contract for hire. Please email me how much you are willing to
pay... Wink
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Michael C



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Damn it! Reply with quote

"Ken Halter" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> You've just posted to an entire group of people that prefer VB over VFred.

I suspect though none of those reasons are positive reasons.

> For the ones with fewer libraries, there are millions of lines of code
> available on the web.

I suspect much more for c# already and climbing rapidly.

> Then. do it, instead of trolling these groups with your constant dotnet
> sales pitches. I get enough spam already.

I always love the "can you stop posting to this thread" type of replies that
people give while continuing to read the thread. Smile

Michael

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