MSMQ

boaz · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 259

I was reading some of the articles for Message Queue.
I don't know what it is but it seems to me that I can use MSMQ with my
program to talk to another program.

do you guys have any experience with using MSMQ with VB?
How does it work?

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> There will not be an answer.
> That IS the answer!
> And I am screwed.
> Deadline was due yesterday.
>
> There is no point to life.
> THAT IS THE POINT.
> And we are screwed.
> We will run out of oil soon.

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boaz · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 259

"boaz" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I was reading some of the articles for Message Queue.
> I don't know what it is but it seems to me that I can use MSMQ with my
> program to talk to another program.
>
> do you guys have any experience with using MSMQ with VB?
> How does it work?
>
>
>
> --
>> There is no answer.
>> There has not been an answer.
>> There will not be an answer.
>> That IS the answer!
>> And I am screwed.
>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>
>> There is no point to life.
>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>> And we are screwed.
>> We will run out of oil soon.
>
> http://spaces.msn.com/bzDaCat
>

Hmmm... it says "add the Microsoft Message Queue 3.0" reference. I don't
see any Microsoft Message Queue reference anywhere.

Dmitriy Antonov · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 431

"boaz" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "boaz" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I was reading some of the articles for Message Queue.
>> I don't know what it is but it seems to me that I can use MSMQ with my
>> program to talk to another program.
>>
>> do you guys have any experience with using MSMQ with VB?
>> How does it work?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>> There is no answer.
>>> There has not been an answer.
>>> There will not be an answer.
>>> That IS the answer!
>>> And I am screwed.
>>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>>
>>> There is no point to life.
>>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>>> And we are screwed.
>>> We will run out of oil soon.
>>
>> http://spaces.msn.com/bzDaCat
>>
>
>
> Hmmm... it says "add the Microsoft Message Queue 3.0" reference. I don't
> see any Microsoft Message Queue reference anywhere.
>

I guess that you should explicitly install it - you can do it in Control
Panel ->Add/Remove Programs ->Add/Remove Windows Components -> Select
Message Queuing

Dmitriy.

boaz · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 259

"Dmitriy Antonov" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> "boaz" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "boaz" wrote in message
>> @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>I was reading some of the articles for Message Queue.
>>> I don't know what it is but it seems to me that I can use MSMQ with my
>>> program to talk to another program.
>>>
>>> do you guys have any experience with using MSMQ with VB?
>>> How does it work?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>> There is no answer.
>>>> There has not been an answer.
>>>> There will not be an answer.
>>>> That IS the answer!
>>>> And I am screwed.
>>>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> There is no point to life.
>>>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>>>> And we are screwed.
>>>> We will run out of oil soon.
>>>
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/bzDaCat
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hmmm... it says "add the Microsoft Message Queue 3.0" reference. I don't
>> see any Microsoft Message Queue reference anywhere.
>>
>
> I guess that you should explicitly install it - you can do it in Control
> Panel ->Add/Remove Programs ->Add/Remove Windows Components -> Select
> Message Queuing
>
> Dmitriy.
>

So what is this Message Queue thing good for?

Dmitriy Antonov · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 431

"boaz" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Dmitriy Antonov" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "boaz" wrote in message
>> @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "boaz" wrote in message
>>> @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>I was reading some of the articles for Message Queue.
>>>> I don't know what it is but it seems to me that I can use MSMQ with my
>>>> program to talk to another program.
>>>>
>>>> do you guys have any experience with using MSMQ with VB?
>>>> How does it work?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>> There is no answer.
>>>>> There has not been an answer.
>>>>> There will not be an answer.
>>>>> That IS the answer!
>>>>> And I am screwed.
>>>>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no point to life.
>>>>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>>>>> And we are screwed.
>>>>> We will run out of oil soon.
>>>>
>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/bzDaCat
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmmm... it says "add the Microsoft Message Queue 3.0" reference. I
>>> don't see any Microsoft Message Queue reference anywhere.
>>>
>>
>> I guess that you should explicitly install it - you can do it in Control
>> Panel ->Add/Remove Programs ->Add/Remove Windows Components -> Select
>> Message Queuing
>>
>> Dmitriy.
>>
>
> So what is this Message Queue thing good for?
>
>

How you can state "it seems to me that I can use MSMQ with my program" and
ask " what is this Message Queue thing good for" at the same time? Smile

I've never used it and have very vague ideas about it to give any advises.
If you have MSDN available then go to Platform SDK -> Networking and
Distributed Services -> MSMQ. It should be good for start and maybe
sufficient overall.

Dmitriy.

boaz · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 259

"Dmitriy Antonov" wrote in message @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
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> "boaz" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
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>> "Dmitriy Antonov" wrote in message
>> @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "boaz" wrote in message
>>> @TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "boaz" wrote in message
>>>> @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I was reading some of the articles for Message Queue.
>>>>> I don't know what it is but it seems to me that I can use MSMQ with my
>>>>> program to talk to another program.
>>>>>
>>>>> do you guys have any experience with using MSMQ with VB?
>>>>> How does it work?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>> There is no answer.
>>>>>> There has not been an answer.
>>>>>> There will not be an answer.
>>>>>> That IS the answer!
>>>>>> And I am screwed.
>>>>>> Deadline was due yesterday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no point to life.
>>>>>> THAT IS THE POINT.
>>>>>> And we are screwed.
>>>>>> We will run out of oil soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/bzDaCat
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm... it says "add the Microsoft Message Queue 3.0" reference. I
>>>> don't see any Microsoft Message Queue reference anywhere.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess that you should explicitly install it - you can do it in Control
>>> Panel ->Add/Remove Programs ->Add/Remove Windows Components -> Select
>>> Message Queuing
>>>
>>> Dmitriy.
>>>
>>
>> So what is this Message Queue thing good for?
>>
>>
>
> How you can state "it seems to me that I can use MSMQ with my program" and
> ask " what is this Message Queue thing good for" at the same time? Smile

>
> I've never used it and have very vague ideas about it to give any advises.
> If you have MSDN available then go to Platform SDK -> Networking and
> Distributed Services -> MSMQ. It should be good for start and maybe
> sufficient overall.
>
> Dmitriy.
>

I've heard about that MSMQ is a great thing... That's about it. So, I am
trying to figure out what and how to use it.
I think it is something like EVENT. But instead of Raising Event, you put
some sort of text messages in some sort of queue so the other programs
running in the computer can look at the messages.

Ralph · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 4148

"boaz" wrote in message@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> So what is this Message Queue thing good for?
>
>

In a nutshell MSMQ (or a.k.a "MS Messaging", or a.k.a. "Queued Components")
is a guaranteed (reliable) forward and store mechanism anologous to an email
or phone-answering machine for COM calls. It used to be part of an Option
Pack for NT but is now a run-time service included with all platforms as a
part of COM+.

Essentially your synchronous COM calls become asynchronous. Allowing the
sender to send when he needs to, and the listener to listen when it needs
to. In addition there is an amazing feature set which allows you to support
all kinds of messaging scenarios. For example, a sender might attach a 'read
request' and an expiration date on a message - being notified when an
receiver reads the msg or if it wasn't read within a certain period of time.

So when it comes to "What is it good for", just let your imagination run
wild.

The only disadvantages are 1) all parameters have to be passed by value, and
2) once you start to use it you will soon discover a couple of hundred other
ways it can benefit your organization - it scales well, but you will have to
setup some kind of central commitee to manage all the voices on an
enterprise level.

Everything you need to know.
http://www.microsoft.com/msj/0599/msmq/msmq.aspx

The new documentation (which will aid with newer platforms).
http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms711472.aspx
Some of the material will be in other languages, but the calls and basics
are essentially the same.

hth
-ralph

boaz · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 259

"Ralph" wrote in message @arkansas.net...
>
> "boaz" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>>
>> So what is this Message Queue thing good for?
>>
>>
>
> In a nutshell MSMQ (or a.k.a "MS Messaging", or a.k.a. "Queued
> Components")
> is a guaranteed (reliable) forward and store mechanism anologous to an
> email
> or phone-answering machine for COM calls. It used to be part of an Option
> Pack for NT but is now a run-time service included with all platforms as a
> part of COM+.
>
> Essentially your synchronous COM calls become asynchronous. Allowing the
> sender to send when he needs to, and the listener to listen when it needs
> to. In addition there is an amazing feature set which allows you to
> support
> all kinds of messaging scenarios. For example, a sender might attach a
> 'read
> request' and an expiration date on a message - being notified when an
> receiver reads the msg or if it wasn't read within a certain period of
> time.
>
> So when it comes to "What is it good for", just let your imagination run
> wild.
>
> The only disadvantages are 1) all parameters have to be passed by value,
> and
> 2) once you start to use it you will soon discover a couple of hundred
> other
> ways it can benefit your organization - it scales well, but you will have
> to
> setup some kind of central commitee to manage all the voices on an
> enterprise level.
>
> Everything you need to know.
> http://www.microsoft.com/msj/0599/msmq/msmq.aspx
>
> The new documentation (which will aid with newer platforms).
> http://windowssdk.msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms711472.aspx
> Some of the material will be in other languages, but the calls and basics
> are essentially the same.
>
> hth
> -ralph
>
>
>
>

Thanks. The articles are very helpful.