New Vista machine and VB Reinstall does not work

Robert Paresi · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 5

Hi,

I have a new machine that came with Vista on it. I have my original VB
CD's. (6.0 Enterprise 1.0).

I would think I would do that, and then install the Service Pack.

Both fail when installation.

Is there a secret of reinstalling from scratch VB 6.0 on a VISTA Business
machine?

Please help - I need to get back to programming and I can't. Smile

-Robert

Archived from group: microsoft>public>vb>enterprise

Ralph · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 4148

"Robert Paresi" wrote in message@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> I have a new machine that came with Vista on it. I have my original VB
> CD's. (6.0 Enterprise 1.0).
>
> I would think I would do that, and then install the Service Pack.
>
> Both fail when installation.
>
> Is there a secret of reinstalling from scratch VB 6.0 on a VISTA Business
> machine?
>
> Please help - I need to get back to programming and I can't. Smile

>
> -Robert
>

Some people have major difficulties, others very little, ie. Not everyone
experiences the same problem - and usually there are more than one. However,
be of good cheer - it can be done.

It is impossible to say what is the correct course of action for you without
knowing what problems you are having. Saying it "fails" is useless.

Start with one install. Tell us the exact problem, error code, dialog, etc.

You might also do a google search of the microsoft.public.vb.~ groups - you
may find most of your questions have already been answered.

-ralph

Robert Paresi · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 5

Hello,

Sorry about that...just my frustration with Windows Vista.

I installed the original CD and when I run it, I get:

Can't find file 'DAO350.DLL'

When I go to install the latest Service Pack, I get:

Visual Studio 6.0 Service Pack 6 Setup was not completed successfully.

This happens immediately after saying YES to the Agreement screen.

-Robert

"Ralph" wrote in message @arkansas.net...
>
> "Robert Paresi" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a new machine that came with Vista on it. I have my original VB
>> CD's. (6.0 Enterprise 1.0).
>>
>> I would think I would do that, and then install the Service Pack.
>>
>> Both fail when installation.
>>
>> Is there a secret of reinstalling from scratch VB 6.0 on a VISTA Business
>> machine?
>>
>> Please help - I need to get back to programming and I can't. Smile

>>
>> -Robert
>>
>
> Some people have major difficulties, others very little, ie. Not everyone
> experiences the same problem - and usually there are more than one.
> However,
> be of good cheer - it can be done.
>
> It is impossible to say what is the correct course of action for you
> without
> knowing what problems you are having. Saying it "fails" is useless.
>
> Start with one install. Tell us the exact problem, error code, dialog,
> etc.
>
> You might also do a google search of the microsoft.public.vb.~ groups -
> you
> may find most of your questions have already been answered.
>
> -ralph
>
>

Ralph · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 4148

"Robert Paresi" wrote in message@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> Sorry about that...just my frustration with Windows Vista.
>
> I installed the original CD and when I run it, I get:
>
> Can't find file 'DAO350.DLL'
>
> When I go to install the latest Service Pack, I get:
>
> Visual Studio 6.0 Service Pack 6 Setup was not completed successfully.
>
> This happens immediately after saying YES to the Agreement screen.
>
> -Robert
>
>

It can be frustrating.

Here is some background info that may help. With Vista the MDAC and Jet
packages are dead. Instead Vista comes with its own component suite called
the DAC. It is essentially MDAC 2.8. It also supplies its own DAO support
through a new component DAO360.DLL. You cannot update these components
through a separate package or install any of the previous MDACs/Jets. But
you can copy selected components on to Vista and registered them separately.

Take a look at the "Support Statement for Visual Basic 6.0 on Windows Vista"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vbasic/ms788708.aspx
Note the components that are "Tested and Not Shipping In Windows Vista".
These are components that you may have to copy

One of these is DAO350.dll.
It needs to be installed in "%CommonFilesFolder%\Microsoft Shared\DAO"
It may or may not make it. If it isn't there the just copy it over. Or if it
does, it may or not be registered.
You can manually register components by running regedit from a DOSPrompt
"run as adminstrator". But occasionally you still run into UAC problems. A
quick 'n dirty way around this, is to create a batch file with the regedit32
statement: name the batch file something with "install" or "setup",
("myInstall.bat"); and then run the batch file as an administrator.
(Right-Click menu). This fakes Vista into treating the batch as an
"installer" with special prividges.

Here is something posted by Kyle Smith that I found helps.
[Watch out for word wrap.]
"How to make service pack 5 install on vista"
:
Step 1) Open C:\ServicePack5Dir\sp598ent.stf with 'Notepad.exe'
Step 2) Replace the following line

13 Group 28 36 38 29 30 32 26 27 14 25 16 17 20 18 19 15 39 21 22 24 23
43

-with-

13 Group 28 38 29 30 32 26 27 14 25 16 17 20 18 19 15 39 21 22 24 23 43

Step 3) Delete the following lines leaving only a carriage return where
it was

36 Depend "27 ? : 37"
37 IsWin95 CustomAction "sp598ent.dll,CheckForMDAC"

Step 4) Save and close C:\ServicePack5Dir\sp598ent.stf
Step 5) Run setupsp5.exe

Give this a try and see if you can get to the next stage of pain.

-ralph

..

Robert Paresi · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 5

Hello,

Ok - the file was there. I registered it using REGSVR32 and it said
Succeeded. Smile

I then ran VB98, and I got "Unexpected Error" and it closed out.

No biggie, I thought ... I should at least load now the latest service pack
anyway - maybe that will fix it.

So, I went to my download directory and my stuff has "sp698vbo" and there
is no "GROUP 28" to change.

-Robert

"Ralph" wrote in message @arkansas.net...
>
> "Robert Paresi" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> Sorry about that...just my frustration with Windows Vista.
>>
>> I installed the original CD and when I run it, I get:
>>
>> Can't find file 'DAO350.DLL'
>>
>> When I go to install the latest Service Pack, I get:
>>
>> Visual Studio 6.0 Service Pack 6 Setup was not completed
>> successfully.
>>
>> This happens immediately after saying YES to the Agreement screen.
>>
>> -Robert
>>
>>
>
> It can be frustrating.
>
> Here is some background info that may help. With Vista the MDAC and Jet
> packages are dead. Instead Vista comes with its own component suite called
> the DAC. It is essentially MDAC 2.8. It also supplies its own DAO support
> through a new component DAO360.DLL. You cannot update these components
> through a separate package or install any of the previous MDACs/Jets. But
> you can copy selected components on to Vista and registered them
> separately.
>
> Take a look at the "Support Statement for Visual Basic 6.0 on Windows
> Vista"
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vbasic/ms788708.aspx
> Note the components that are "Tested and Not Shipping In Windows Vista".
> These are components that you may have to copy
>
> One of these is DAO350.dll.
> It needs to be installed in "%CommonFilesFolder%\Microsoft Shared\DAO"
> It may or may not make it. If it isn't there the just copy it over. Or if
> it
> does, it may or not be registered.
> You can manually register components by running regedit from a DOSPrompt
> "run as adminstrator". But occasionally you still run into UAC problems. A
> quick 'n dirty way around this, is to create a batch file with the
> regedit32
> statement: name the batch file something with "install" or "setup",
> ("myInstall.bat"); and then run the batch file as an administrator.
> (Right-Click menu). This fakes Vista into treating the batch as an
> "installer" with special prividges.
>
> Here is something posted by Kyle Smith that I found helps.
> [Watch out for word wrap.]
> "How to make service pack 5 install on vista"
> :
> Step 1) Open C:\ServicePack5Dir\sp598ent.stf with 'Notepad.exe'
> Step 2) Replace the following line
>
> 13 Group 28 36 38 29 30 32 26 27 14 25 16 17 20 18 19 15 39 21 22 24 23
> 43
>
> -with-
>
> 13 Group 28 38 29 30 32 26 27 14 25 16 17 20 18 19 15 39 21 22 24 23 43
>
> Step 3) Delete the following lines leaving only a carriage return where
> it was
>
> 36 Depend "27 ? : 37"
> 37 IsWin95 CustomAction "sp598ent.dll,CheckForMDAC"
>
> Step 4) Save and close C:\ServicePack5Dir\sp598ent.stf
> Step 5) Run setupsp5.exe
>
> Give this a try and see if you can get to the next stage of pain.
>
> -ralph
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>

Robert Paresi · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 5

Same Ole!

I tried SP5, no go.

I then tried just the SP5 for VB only, and changed to not installed MDAC
(group 22), nothing.

Tried SP6 for VB - same thing.

It just says it wasn't installed.

UAC is turned off on my machine.

-Robert

"Ralph" wrote in message @arkansas.net...
>
> "Robert Paresi" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> Sorry about that...just my frustration with Windows Vista.
>>
>> I installed the original CD and when I run it, I get:
>>
>> Can't find file 'DAO350.DLL'
>>
>> When I go to install the latest Service Pack, I get:
>>
>> Visual Studio 6.0 Service Pack 6 Setup was not completed
>> successfully.
>>
>> This happens immediately after saying YES to the Agreement screen.
>>
>> -Robert
>>
>>
>
> It can be frustrating.
>
> Here is some background info that may help. With Vista the MDAC and Jet
> packages are dead. Instead Vista comes with its own component suite called
> the DAC. It is essentially MDAC 2.8. It also supplies its own DAO support
> through a new component DAO360.DLL. You cannot update these components
> through a separate package or install any of the previous MDACs/Jets. But
> you can copy selected components on to Vista and registered them
> separately.
>
> Take a look at the "Support Statement for Visual Basic 6.0 on Windows
> Vista"
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vbasic/ms788708.aspx
> Note the components that are "Tested and Not Shipping In Windows Vista".
> These are components that you may have to copy
>
> One of these is DAO350.dll.
> It needs to be installed in "%CommonFilesFolder%\Microsoft Shared\DAO"
> It may or may not make it. If it isn't there the just copy it over. Or if
> it
> does, it may or not be registered.
> You can manually register components by running regedit from a DOSPrompt
> "run as adminstrator". But occasionally you still run into UAC problems. A
> quick 'n dirty way around this, is to create a batch file with the
> regedit32
> statement: name the batch file something with "install" or "setup",
> ("myInstall.bat"); and then run the batch file as an administrator.
> (Right-Click menu). This fakes Vista into treating the batch as an
> "installer" with special prividges.
>
> Here is something posted by Kyle Smith that I found helps.
> [Watch out for word wrap.]
> "How to make service pack 5 install on vista"
> :
> Step 1) Open C:\ServicePack5Dir\sp598ent.stf with 'Notepad.exe'
> Step 2) Replace the following line
>
> 13 Group 28 36 38 29 30 32 26 27 14 25 16 17 20 18 19 15 39 21 22 24 23
> 43
>
> -with-
>
> 13 Group 28 38 29 30 32 26 27 14 25 16 17 20 18 19 15 39 21 22 24 23 43
>
> Step 3) Delete the following lines leaving only a carriage return where
> it was
>
> 36 Depend "27 ? : 37"
> 37 IsWin95 CustomAction "sp598ent.dll,CheckForMDAC"
>
> Step 4) Save and close C:\ServicePack5Dir\sp598ent.stf
> Step 5) Run setupsp5.exe
>
> Give this a try and see if you can get to the next stage of pain.
>
> -ralph
>
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>

Ralph · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 4148

"Robert Paresi" wrote in message@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Same Ole!
>
> I tried SP5, no go.
>
> I then tried just the SP5 for VB only, and changed to not installed MDAC
> (group 22), nothing.
>
> Tried SP6 for VB - same thing.
>
> It just says it wasn't installed.
>
> UAC is turned off on my machine.
>
> -Robert
>

I have had trouble installing VS6/VB6 on Vista, but haven't experienced a
problem after it was finally installed.

Just to make sure where you are.
You were able to install the initial VS6 (without SPs), correct?
But when you run the IDE it fails with an "expected error".
You have tried to install SP5 and SP6 and have been unsuccessful. The only
error you get is it says "it wasn't installed".

Even with UAC, you must run the IDE and SP installs as an Administrator.
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1389547&SiteID=1&mode=1
(This discusses RC1, but the issue is similar to what others have found with
Released versions.)

-ralph

Robert Paresi · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 5

Hello,

Yes ... Exactly what you said.

I have the original disks installed only. Starting it shows:

==========================
Microsoft Visual Basic

RedX: Unexpected error; quitting

OK HELP

==========================

-Robert

"Ralph" wrote in message @arkansas.net...
>
> "Robert Paresi" wrote in message
> @TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Same Ole!
>>
>> I tried SP5, no go.
>>
>> I then tried just the SP5 for VB only, and changed to not installed MDAC
>> (group 22), nothing.
>>
>> Tried SP6 for VB - same thing.
>>
>> It just says it wasn't installed.
>>
>> UAC is turned off on my machine.
>>
>> -Robert
>>
>
>
> I have had trouble installing VS6/VB6 on Vista, but haven't experienced a
> problem after it was finally installed.
>
> Just to make sure where you are.
> You were able to install the initial VS6 (without SPs), correct?
> But when you run the IDE it fails with an "expected error".
> You have tried to install SP5 and SP6 and have been unsuccessful. The only
> error you get is it says "it wasn't installed".
>
> Even with UAC, you must run the IDE and SP installs as an Administrator.
> http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1389547&SiteID=1&mode=1
> (This discusses RC1, but the issue is similar to what others have found
> with
> Released versions.)
>
> -ralph
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Ralph · Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 4148

"Robert Paresi" wrote in message@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> Yes ... Exactly what you said.
>
> I have the original disks installed only. Starting it shows:
>
> ==========================
> Microsoft Visual Basic
>
> RedX: Unexpected error; quitting
>
> OK HELP
>
> ==========================
>
> -Robert
>

Any chance the "didn't install" message is bogus? Does the IDE work now?

-ralph

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